Ep. 400 New Analysis of the Douglas Murray / Dave Smith Debate on Rogan

Adam Haman returns to dissect the Douglas Murray / Dave Smith debate on Joe Rogan. Adam and Bob present evidence–including an old clip of Murray talking about Iraq–that other commentary has missed.
Mentioned in the Episode and Other Links of Interest:
- The YouTube version of this conversation.
- The full Murray/Smith debate on Rogan.
- The UNICEF fact sheet on the Gaza blockade.
- Murray talking to Lex Fridman on “lived experience.”
- Murray talking about his visit to Iraq.
- The HamanNature substack.
- Help support the Bob Murphy Show.
I felt the same way you did, Bob. I was really curious to hear what Murray would have to say in response to Dave and was really disappointed and annoyed by the 30 minute merry-go-round about experts and jelly.
Murray is at his best when he’s slinging cutting remarks at people who deserve it. Not only is Rogan the totally wrong format for that, but Dave effectively disarmed him by keeping it cool and congenial. I think Murray just didn’t prepare, because he seriously underestimated Dave Smith, and thought this was going to be another Piers Morgan style debate. It’s a shame there probably won’t be another debate, because I’d still like to know how Murray would respond to Dave’s points if he brought his facts with him (assuming he has any).
The other thing – I don’t know if you caught this – but Murray kept implying that there were these unnamed experts out there who demonstrate that Dave doesn’t know what he’s talking about if only Joe would let them.
Meanwhile, over the past 5 or more years, Dave has been completely trampling prominent Neocons, and their fans have insisted that this NEXT neocon is the one who will finally show Dave, only to once again have Dave Trample them. Doug Murray was the long-awaited debate. He was the front-line journalist and expert who was finally going to prove that Dave knew nothing. But instead, we just got an appeal to more experts – this time without specifics.
It’s just experts all the way down with these people.
Totally agree, Tyler.
LOL. Experts all the way down. So right.