Ep. 343 Allie Clough as the Red Cross in the War Between the Sexes
Allie Clough is a frequent participant in Twitter’s war between the sexes, though she usually acts to de-escalate and provide comfort to the wounded. After discussing such juicy issues, she also talks to Bob about free-market environmentalism.
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- The YouTube version of this interview.
- Allie’s Twitter.
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About the author, Robert
Christian and economist, Chief Economist at infineo, and Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute.
On the backlash over the video game stuff..
Imagine you were in the dating scene and told women you were a Christian. Then you found out that being a Christian was the number one least attractive quality in a man. And then a woman told you that you should stop being so Christian, or at least stop talking about it. The reason you’re having no luck at dating is because you like the things you like and you should stop liking those things. Just stop being YOU.
Would you be annoyed at this?
It’s annoying when people tell you what to do, but as an enthusiastic gamer, I would not be annoyed if someone told me my hobby was unattractive to women. I kind of thought everybody already knew that and were choosing to play games, knowing full well that it belongs to the realm of nerd-dom and is a babe repellant.
If a gamer is frustrated that women are unattracted to them – well sorry. Women’s dating preferences are as a much a rigid reality as your hobby preference. A little encouragement to diversify one’s interests a bit is not only not the end of the world, but it’s one of the perks of forming a relationship with a woman. A good woman should be a civilizing force that challenges you to grow up and change in a positive way.
Why is the onus always on the man to change? Absurd and sexist.
To the extent that, in general, the onus for self-improvement falls disproportionally on men, it’s sexist in a way that benefits men.
But in this particular case, the onus falls upon the man, because the man is the one who is upset that women don’t find his hobby attractive. So it’s on him to decide whether he wants to date a woman or a Cortana body pillow.
Which men were doing that? She said this stuff unprompted. She injected this goofy study into a conversation that nobody was having.
Why do you always defer to the woman no matter what?
If you want others to like you then you have to match what they like. It is that simple. In a discussion of getting women to like you enough to date you then that means you have to be someone a woman would want to date. The same goes both ways. But men generally have fewer demands, likely because we don’t bear the the heaviest burden if we date someone who is a loser but get pregnant by.
But, again, nobody was lamenting the lack of a date. Allie brought this study up herself, completely unprompted.
“Which men are doing that?”
The hypothetical gamer in your original comment whose annoyed that his hobby makes him unattractive to women. I don’t follow much gender war content, so I don’t know what conversations people are and aren’t having. I was responding to your comment.
“Why do you always defer to the woman no matter what?”
No idea what you’re talking about here.
Thanks, Bob. I really enjoyed this guest. It’s nice to see a non-cartoonish take on the gender issues. I would have given her a follow if I knew my Twitter password.
I follow a lot of male gamers who rightly complain about woke women trying to bully them out of their own hobby. But as much as I loved the Halo lobbies of yore, that’s a fine way for boys to rough house with other boys, but it’s not how they should talk to girls in the lobby. And it’s not asking too much for them to tone it down and share their hobby. sometimes I want to grab both sides by the ear and say “you, be nice to your sister and share your game, and you, stop being bossy and tattling on your brother.”